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let us not neglect

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waiting for another

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back and forth like I'm wrong

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people are ready to hear whatever's out

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there maybe it's a man-made aircraft

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maybe it's otherworldly station what's

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up y'all

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thanks for joining me for this episode

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which may be a little bit different

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today I want to tackle a couple of

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things that I think need to be discussed

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with David grush we have

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um the term whistleblower in the news

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quite a lot

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and reprisals of whistleblowers

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David Rush tells us that his house was

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broken into and probably his phones were

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tapped and

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um

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his security clearance was taken away

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briefly

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and this is after he reported to the IG

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the Inspector General

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and apparently after he even met George

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Knapp and Jeremy Corbell at a Star Trek

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convention he came to the office the

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so obviously this all means that there's

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over a year ago

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and we're just learning about this now

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we've learned that actual Congressional

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were Mia

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when grush gave testimony

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I don't think people realize how

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difficult it is for a whistleblower to

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come forward no one wants to be a

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whistleblower

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and tattletail on other people some of

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which have probably become close friends

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nobody wants to go through those

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nobody wants to be punished for doing

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unfortunately that happens to human

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to the point of doing the right thing

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so when we think about whistleblowers

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we have to be grateful for them Having

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the courage and strength to come forward

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because it's not easy and for those who

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haven't we need to be compassionate and

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empathetic and realize that we don't

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know their individual position

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that would maybe stop them from coming

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much about The Whistleblower process and

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what that looks like

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so I wanted to dig into that a little

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you know I know it's not an easy process

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how these whistleblower situations go

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in doing that research I found a really

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and I'm just going to read this part of

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it because it is specific towards

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the situations they find themselves in

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and however they're pretty much just

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the section is entitled whistleblowers

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have to advocate for themselves and

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if a whistleblower in the intelligence

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they have to advocate for themselves

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intelligence community and there is no

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the retaliation whether that's a firing

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or demotion are also involved in

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determining if it qualifies as an

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overreach in response to the

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whistleblower's actions it is riddled

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capturing what it's like for some

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where you have to fend for yourself

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in what you're whistleblowing about

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or the retaliation efforts against you

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somebody gave his name out

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you can see this isn't easy because

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your own to fight a corrupt government

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this has kind of been coming up lately

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with a sufficient Authority both to keep

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the secrets that are legitimate

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investigate

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and expose wrongdoing when it occurs

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stays free and that means that any spy

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agency continues

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to be outward looking to spy on

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foreigners but not to be spying on

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Americans or not to be trampling upon

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the laws and constitutional rights of

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American citizens that would be its

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purpose and in the long run it would

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contribute to public confidence in the

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CIA and make for an efficient

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operating within the law Frank Church

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president not knowing about the things

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to happen here so I thought it'd be fair

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to kind of look into that church

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first of all what people think of it

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suggesting he should kill himself the

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King there is only one thing left for

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exact number has been selected for a

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specific reason it is definite practical

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significance it was 34 days before the

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award you are done

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that was taken by Dr King to mean a

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suggestion for suicide was it nice

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that's our understanding senator

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the conclusions of your staff that it

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the other thing that was exposed one of

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the main things that was exposed

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abused their power

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now though the church committee was held

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in 1975 to build up to that committee

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where we could see this news article

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military snooping Navy and Air Force

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secret military guidelines give the Navy

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gathering duties similar to those of the

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which a senator says has spied on

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members of Congress and hundreds of

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other civilians documents obtained by

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secret on every page State the two

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military branches

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have investigative and Reporting

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requirements relating to civil

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and dissident or subversive activities

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until now little has been known about

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the Navy and Air Force domestic

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intelligence operations although the

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Army's activities in this field

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undertaken under similar guidelines

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have been the subject of a year-long

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controversy the fear flared again

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Wednesday when Senator Sam Irvin

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said Army agents had collected

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information on Senator Senator Stevenson

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former Illinois governor now a federal

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and then in 1975 we had the church

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committee and even more information

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started to come out about these uh

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situations only with respect to the

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failure of the Congress in the past

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exercise proper surveillance over

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intelligence activities

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excessive secrecy has created this kind

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of Mischief within the executive branch

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here we have a case

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where the very methods of secrecy are

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concealed for five years

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an act of insubordination within the CIA

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that came to light only by the

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happenstance but Mr Colby the present

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director asked the agency if they please

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wouldn't tell him where the CIA was

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influencing the media and I think this

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saying that still happens because I

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but a lot of people bring this up as a

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possibility as we can see Outlets like

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the New York Times CNN and others

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completely ignores the story

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of The Whistleblower David Rush

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this is entitled CBS CIA connection

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uncloaked

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slowly and painfully the truth comes out

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back in 1973 we learned that the CIA had

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been using journalists as agents and

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news organizations as cover

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the disclosure came from William Kobe

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the then CIA director who also said that

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he would cut back his agency's

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involvement with the Press

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since then there have been a series of

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similar Revelations and Promises of

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change the details were different each

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time but it was abundantly clear that

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the CIA was using the press and hated to

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give it up another thing that comes up

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in UFO land so to speak is

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misinformation

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uh Sensational details

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inaccurate accounts

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what have you

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we're all familiar with Richard Dottie

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in the case of Paul benowitz

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and how Paul benowitz thought he was

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seeing UFOs at Kirkland Air Force Base

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Dottie got to know this person

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he told them yes they were UFOs and yes

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he was communicating with

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extraterrestrials via his ham radio

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and really

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encouraged his belief

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and extraterrestrials and aliens and at

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the time he worked for the Air Force

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now why am I mentioning this because

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while he was currently

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now mentioning this because one of the

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popular stories right now about UFOs

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is about a kid who saw

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a 9 to 10 foot alien being in his

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backyard with this whole family cops

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came the cops were kind of convinced

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because they saw green meteor earlier in

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this story one of the clips on news

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Nation with Nick popez over 4 million

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plays

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in this story

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happened like a month before its release

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its release

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with whistleblower David grush and his

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at this point it's fair to say that the

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Las Vegas nine-foot alien being story is

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quite a bit more popular

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the kid who saw the being

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started all these different social media

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alien accounts

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prior to the release of this information

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the kid in the families don't answer

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requests from reporters after they first

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Contact the reporters

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it's a hoax

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and what's with the timing it's pretty

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awkward

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so we have a credible whistleblower

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coming forward a national news

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and then we have a sensational story

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about alien beings that are 9 10 feet

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tall

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so if we go back in history do we find

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any other cases like this

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we do know that part of the ndaa that

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was passed into law

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a part of Arrow was looking back into

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misinformation campaigns

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so I would fully expect to hear about

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those

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well I'm going to use a case that you

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and at first it may be confusing but let

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me get through it be patient with me and

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this case is

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the story is about a case that happened

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at elsewhere at the Air Force Base

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November 16 1977.

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and Richard Dottie was heavily expected

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and apparently he even confirmed to some

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people

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that he was responsible for the telling

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of this story

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a story gaining Credence among some UFO

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researchers concerns the reported

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Landing of a UFO near a missile site in

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South Dakota on November 16 1977 with

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the UFO's occupants

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stealing the missile's nuclear

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components and wounding a security

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policemen

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the writer says as one of those who

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investigated the alleged incident I can

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say positively that it never happened

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unfortunately some people choose to

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believe otherwise let me explain some of

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what I know about the Ellsworth case

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and perhaps we can lay it to rest

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so these researchers put in some 40-plus

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days of research on this case and found

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some 20 30 discrepancies in the details

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of it

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the reaction was obviously this was a

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fantastic story if it was true

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the report form certainly seemed

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authentic but the report itself sounded

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very much like a hoax

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however it had to be checked out we were

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certain the Air Force would deny it so

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they made phone calls around town they

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interviewed people nobody heard of the

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incident

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one of the witnesses was not able to be

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confirmed as being at the base although

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everybody else was they tried to call

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them

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the phone just kept ringing seemed like

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a fake number these investigators for a

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little bit thought there might be

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something to this

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it's interesting what their final

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comment is here they say

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some researchers believe that although

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the Ellsworth incident might have been a

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hoax the Air Force engineered the whole

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thing to distract attention from

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something else it wanted to hide

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what could that be I have no clue

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one researcher told me that there have

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been many UFO sightings in that area at

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the time but if so I was never aware of

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them nor can I imagine why the Air Force

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would attract the attention of Inquirer

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reporters

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if it did have something to hide on the

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other hand my editor Bill dick who died

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a few years later was convinced that the

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Air Force was covering up something

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so Richard Dottie implants this story in

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the community

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but Ellsworth Air Force Base

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somebody sent a confirmation to the

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National Enquirer in 1977 who was

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Anonymous that it's real

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the aliens had guns injured somebody

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they stole the nuclear component

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now it just so happens

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someone who recently testified

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to Arrow

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his name is Mario Woods

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tells us

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pulled of his UFO encounter at Ellsworth

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Air Force Base

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which happened to be in November also of

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1977 and although he can't give an exact

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date he says he remembers it was about a

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week previous to Thanksgiving as he was

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trying to get off

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which just so happens to be November

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16th

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but Mario Woods tells a very different

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story

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from the engineered Richard Dottie's

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story

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Mario Woods

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remembers seeing Richard Dottie at

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Mario Woods got in contact with Richard

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Dottie

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Mario Woods tells us his story and it is

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breathtaking and emotional

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where he sees a big orange flame

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his friend goes into paralysis

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he experienced missing time for hours

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none of these things mentioned

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in the story that hit the Press

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the story

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that it depressed The Inquirer

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it was all manufactured

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and fake

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to cover up

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a real story that actually happened

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and it's called

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controlling the flow of information

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altering the details

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so people don't know what's truth

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[Music]

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thank you

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[Music]

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I know some people out there feel a

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different way emotionally about John

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Greenwald Black Vault whatever I don't

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want to get into that he made a post on

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Twitter Air Force Office of the

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secretary wrote yesterday since the

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termination of Project Blue Book nothing

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has occurred that would support a

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resumption of UFO investigations by the

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Air Force John Greenwald Jr creator of

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The Black Vault tweeted yesterday no

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this is not a quote from 1996 this was

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this morning in writing this is also

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written on the Air Force website Air

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Force was a contributor to the UAP

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report even though we were told very few

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reports actually came from the Air Force

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and one of the UAP assessments

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while the majority came from the Navy

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but apparently the Air Force

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naisc which is the Air Force and

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Jonathan Gray

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from Ray Patterson Air Force Base

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was mentioned in the Whistleblower

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here's what happened in 1975.

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now if you're familiar with the UFO

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topic and some of the historic military

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UFO sightings you should be familiar

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with the various UFO sightings over

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nuclear Minnesota bases in the mid 60s

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Robert Salas is probably the most

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well-known case in Witness

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that was from 1967. and I can attest

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that if you look at Blue Book Air Force

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files there were a number of sightings

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at that time

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some included Visual and radar sightings

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and oftentimes they didn't know what the

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cause was

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a couple of times recorded were

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break-ins to the missile silos

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we know the Mario Woods case in 1977

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these are all strategic area command

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nuclear missile bases there is also a

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time back in 1975

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that was ripe with these sightings as

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well

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and for this segment of back in time

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we're going to read an article that

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comes from the Miami Herald that dated

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Saturday January 20th 1979 UFO cited

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over missile bases report says

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by Ward sinclaren art Harris Washington

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Post Service

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interesting

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during two weeks in 1975 a string of the

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nation's sensitive nuclear missile

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launch sites and bomber bases was

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visited by unidentified low-flying and

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Elusive objects according to defense

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department reports

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the sightings made visually and on radar

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by air and ground Crews and sabotage

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alert forces occurred at installations

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in Montana Michigan and Maine

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and led to extensive but unsuccessful

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Air Force attempts to track and detain

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the objects

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Air Force and defense Department Records

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variously describe the objects as

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helicopters aircraft unknown entities

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[Music]

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and brightly lighted fast-moving

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vehicles that hovered over nuclear

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weapons storage areas and evaded all

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in several instances after bay security

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had been penetrated the Air Force and

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fighter planes Aloft to carry on the

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unsuccessful Pursuit the records do not

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indicate if the fighters fired on The

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Intruders

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the documents also give no indication

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that the airspace incursions provoked

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much more than local command concern

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but in November 11 1975 directive from

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the office of the secretary of the Air

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Force instructed public information

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staffers to avoid linking the scattered

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sightings unless specifically asked

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cover-up the defense department position

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cited in that memo and reiterated

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Thursday by a departmental spokesman is

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that formal investigation of

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unidentified flying objects ended in

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1969.

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and that there were no plans for renewed

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Air Force investigation

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yet another Air Force by the way they

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said that in 1950 I believe too yet

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another Air Force intelligence report

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indicated extensive interest in 1976

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incident over Iran when two Iranian Air

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Force F4 Phantom Fighters were scrambled

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to encounter a brightly lighted object

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in the skies near Tehran

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the object was tracked by Iranian ground

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radar seen independently by the crew of

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the commercial airliner and pursued by

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the f4s which accordingly to the report

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experienced a breakdown of their

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electronic communications devices when

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they neared the object

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the report compiled by the American

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officials said that the electronic

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weapons system of one of the planes went

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dead when its pilot prepared to fire an

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aim-9 missile

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at a smaller object that appeared to

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sounds like a Mothership

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the plane's electronic equipment

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reportedly began working again after

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they veered away from the smaller object

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which had returned to the larger light

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the report said

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Iranians described a larger object with

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colored Fast Flashing Lights

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as the size of a Boeing 707 jetliner

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in the 1975 and 76 sightings records

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from the Air Force and NORAD was turned

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over to the ground saucer watch a

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phoenix-based organization that monitors

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UFO reports ground saucer watch obtained

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the information through a freedom of

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information request to the Air Force

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one of a number it has made to

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government agencies involved in UFO

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investigations

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[Music]

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similar request to the CIA made both by

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ground saucerwatch and the Washington

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Post resulted in the cias turning over

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almost 900 pages of documents related to

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its monitoring of UFO reports since the

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1950s

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the CIA was directed by a U.S District

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Court Judge here last year to turn over

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to ground saucerwatch data on UFOs

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unrelated to National Security I would

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love to see the UFOs that are related to

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National Security

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the CIA documents largely are a

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collection of worldwide intelligence

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reports newspaper articles agency

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memorabilia relating to UFO sightings

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and theories of extraterrestrial life

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the cia's position reiterated Thursday

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by spokesman is that it has no

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involvement with UFOs since 1953 when a

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special study panel concluded that they

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presented no threat to National Security

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with memos as recent as 1977 are

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included in documents Toca spokesman

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since the agency continues to be a

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passive recipient of UFO data even

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though none of the material is

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analyzedual ground saucer watch

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investigator and director of another

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organization citizens against UFO

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secrecy said we've had to pry loose

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every item of information we have I am

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inclined to believe that government

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doesn't know any more about UFOs than we

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do but a few of those are what they say

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nothing why don't they open their files

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totally great point

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sexual and Spalding of Phoenix

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engineering director of ground

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saucerwatch said that the defense

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department the Air Force and the

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National Security Agency have refused to

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turn over certain other information that

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would shed more light on Military

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encounters with UFOs

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single of former National Security

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Agency employee who now lives in

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Wisconsin said that the 1975 incidents

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around the missile and bomber facilities

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would not have been revealed had it not

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been for a leak from a pentagon source

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thanks for watching

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my name is Sean

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this is witness citizen

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[Music]

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what's the reason the secrets to be kept

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I so dry like you've never whipped

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let us not neglect

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waiting for another

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back and forth like I'm wrong

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I'm still in love with

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[Music]

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what it means to be Faithfully

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understood

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respectfully

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I guess now you know me

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thank you

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waiting for another

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back and forth like I'm wrong

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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and I'm still in love with you

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there's not a little